Cold and some snow flurries did occur yesterday afternoon. At first I thought I was seeing petals from the Pear trees, but i saw some that were inexplicable any other way and then found that this was not uncommon yesterday and overnight.
Today remains cool with highs up to the mid 50s. Some clouds will come in later in the day. West facing mountain slopes will see some increase in snow showers tonight, and maybe a few showers east of the mountains.
Tomorrow looks like the best day of the week as many areas will see a seasonal temperature day with highs reaching the 60s.
Friday will see rain return as a huge storm system traverses the country. This one will be severe for many in the Southern Plains and that severe weather could reach southern Virginia and North Carolina before the whole system clears the area!
A cool High pressure will bring sunny conditions in for Sunday, but another system will start knocking on the door by Monday.
All for now!
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Wednesday, April 08, 2009
Tuesday, April 07, 2009
Flurries
Saw some this evening. Some possible west of 95 and mainly north
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Very cool today and tomorrow. Showers could re-enter the forecast tomorrow night. More rain Friday into Saturday
It will be very cool and breezy today. Highs in the mountains will be in the 30s while southern regions go up to the low and mid 50s. Cold night with widespread 20s (mountains) and 30s elsewhere. Tomorrow will be about 5 degrees warmer with clouds on the increase and maybe some showers for parts of the region late. Tomorrow night into Thursday, showers could occur, and even high elevation snow showers.
A more significant system will come across the country and cause increases in showers Thursday night into Saturday. Temps will moderate to near seasonal at that point.
Clear and close to seasonal conditions will return Sunday and into next week.
A few cool news stories I came across in the last day.
http://www.wbaltv.com/news/19098826/detail.html new Dual POL Radar
More info from NWS on it: http://wdtb.noaa.gov/modules/dualpol/index.htm
Climate Change caused by Oceans and not Humans: http://hurricane.atmos.colostate.edu/Includes/Documents/Publications/gray2009.pdf
All for now!
A more significant system will come across the country and cause increases in showers Thursday night into Saturday. Temps will moderate to near seasonal at that point.
Clear and close to seasonal conditions will return Sunday and into next week.
A few cool news stories I came across in the last day.
http://www.wbaltv.com/news/19098826/detail.html new Dual POL Radar
More info from NWS on it: http://wdtb.noaa.gov/modules/dualpol/index.htm
Climate Change caused by Oceans and not Humans: http://hurricane.atmos.colostate.edu/Includes/Documents/Publications/gray2009.pdf
All for now!
Monday, April 06, 2009
Severe Threat increasing in Southeastern VA - Tornado watch up!
Seeing many thunderstorm cells starting to show some rotation in a line that is moving towards Southeastern VA. This has prompted Tornado watches and there have been several severe storm warnings already down in South Central VA. Areas East of 95 from Richmond on down through South Carolina need to be alert!
All for now!
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All for now!
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Severe weather possible today
Severe storms will be possible today and are actually already occurring in some locations! Please be alert and stay tuned to weather and media outlets. The biggest threat today will be gusty winds. An isolated tornado could occur.
This is due to a strong front that will usher in much colder air tomorrow!
All for now!
Jimmy
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This is due to a strong front that will usher in much colder air tomorrow!
All for now!
Jimmy
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Some strong storms possible today!
Today could be a bit interesting as storms could get to severe levels, especially east of I-95. This is part of a strong cold front that will usher in a much colder day Tuesday with many areas seeing 40s and 50s as high temps. There will be snow on west facing mountains and definitely a lot of wind. As the week progresses, temps will moderate slowly, but still be a few degrees above normal. More unsettled weather this Thursday, Friday, and Saturday will provide some rain to the region.
All for now!
All for now!
Saturday, April 04, 2009
Warm Sunday. Cold front Monday and colder air!
After a warm Sunday, a strong cold front will come through Monday and drop temperatures! This will be the start of a colder period then what you would hope for Spring. We will see high temperatures in the lower 50s for Tuesday and night time lows getting to freezing in some areas.
Longer term we will see temperatures rise back to the 60s by next weekend. The risk of rain will come back too by Friday and Saturday.
All for now.
Longer term we will see temperatures rise back to the 60s by next weekend. The risk of rain will come back too by Friday and Saturday.
All for now.
Nice sunny weekend. Early next week cool down.
Windy day for tyoday, but beautiful! Highs will be in the 60s and lower 70s!
Tomorrow we lose the winds and have about 3 to 5 more degrees added to
the forecast. Clouds will increase.
Rainy monday and cooler tuesday. All for now. More later!
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Friday, April 03, 2009
Heavy rains and severe possible today
Heavy rains, high winds, and some severe storms are possible today.
Biggest threat from the severe storms will be the winds, but isolated tornadoes are not out of the question.
All for now!
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Wednesday, April 01, 2009
Spring rains
Rainy weather is a welcome site as we continue in drought conditions.
Today's rains will not be much. Friday looks a bit more optimistic in
the rain department anmd may have storms as well.
Today's rains will not be much. Friday looks a bit more optimistic in
the rain department anmd may have storms as well.
Mild to almost warm conditions are in store for tomorrow. Later day
clouds and maybe rain will start out west. Temps in the 60s to low 70s
though. More rain and potential thubder on Friday.
Could be a nice weekend with sun and 60s to 70s!
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Sunday, March 29, 2009
Quite the blizzard out west! High waters! Probably some...
It has been a very active spring already this year! many tornadoes reported. Blizzards in Texas and Oklahoma! Another taking shape over South Dakota today. It is pretty wild!
For us, as the storm wraps up and pushes a warm front north of the area, we will see some warmer temps today. that will be followed by a pretty wild afternoon as thunderstorms should break out and cause some higher winds. We "Cool" down tomorrow to the 50s again, and then see some warmer temps later this weke. A coastal low may form and cause another bout of rain wednesday into Thursday will some cooler air.
Blizzard video coverage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXzool-s0xU&feature=player_embedded
Poor people up in ND under so much water!
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/03/red_river_flooding.html
From NWS:
FLOOD STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE EASTERN NORTH DAKOTA/GRAND FORKS ND
1054 AM CDT SAT MAR 28 2009
...THE FLOOD WARNING CONTINUES FOR THE FOLLOWING RIVERS IN
MINNESOTA...NORTH DAKOTA...
THIS IS A FOLLOW-UP FLOOD STATEMENT TO THE CURRENT WARNINGS FOR THE
RED RIVER AT FARGO AFFECTING CLAY AND CASS COUNTIES
.CONDITIONS ON THE RED RIVER AT FARGO AND MOORHEAD REMAIN DANGEROUS.
THE RIVER IS CURRENTLY ABOVE RECORD LEVELS...AND AT THIS TIME THE
LEVEL IS EXPECTED TO VERY SLOWLY DECREASE OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS.
HOWEVER...REPORTS INDICATE THAT THERE IS STILL SIGNIFICANT OVERLAND
FLOODING SOUTH OF FARGO...AND THIS WATER IS EXPECTED TO STILL FLOW
INTO THE RED RIVER BETWEEN HICKSON AND FARGO. DUE TO RECENT COLD
WEATHER...OVERLAND FLOW INTO THE RED RIVER HAS SLOWED
DRAMATICALLY...BUT IT IS EXPECTED TO RESUME AS TEMPERATURES WARM
BACK ABOVE FREEZING LATER NEXT WEEK. AS A RESULT...RIVER LEVELS MAY
FLUCTUATE OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS.
RIVER LEVELS ARE STILL EXPECTED TO REMAIN BELOW 41.0 FEET AND SLOWLY
DECREASE OVER THE NEXT 3 TO 7 DAYS. WITH THE RIVER EXCEEDING THE
PREVIOUS RECORD LEVEL...THE RELATIVE UNCERTAINTY IN FORECAST MODELS
REMAIN AND THE RIVER WILL CONTINUE TO BEHAVE IN WAYS NEVER BEFORE
SEEN. A STORM SYSTEM WILL INFLUENCE THE AREA MONDAY THROUGH TUESDAY.
EASTERLY WINDS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS STORM MAY CAUSE WAVES OF UP TO
2 FEET...ON TOP OF THE CREST VALUE...TO IMPACT THE WESTERN DIKES
ALONG THE RED RIVER. THUS...THERE IS STILL A POSSIBILITY THAT THE
RIVER COULD RISE AGAIN.
AT 1030 AM CDT...THE RIVER STAGE AT FARGO IS 40.69 FEET. THIS LEVEL
EXCEEDS THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OBSERVED IN THE 1997 FLOOD...WHICH WAS
39.57 FEET. THIS LEVEL ALSO EXCEEDS THE RECORD HEIGHT OBSERVED IN
1897...WHICH WAS 40.10 FEET.
THIS FORECAST IS FOR A 7 DAY PERIOD...THE HIGHEST STAGE INDICATED
MAY NOT REFLECT THE CREST FOR THIS FLOOD EVENT. FORECASTS ARE
UPDATED DAILY AND STAGE VALUES WILL CHANGE AS NEW WEATHER AND
RIVER INFORMATION IS USED. THIS FORECAST INCLUDES ANY
PRECIPITATION THROUGH THE NEXT 24 HOURS.
PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...
SAFETY MESSAGES...TURN AROUND, DON`T DROWN...
- DON`T TRAVEL THROUGH FLOODED AREAS!
- CONTACT LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT TO REPORT FLOODING.
- PERSONS LIVING IN THE RED RIVER BASIN SHOULD MONITOR RIVER
LEVELS WHILE THE RIVER IS IN...OR NEAR...FLOOD.
FOR MORE INFORMATION...GO TO THE AHPS/RIVER SECTION
ON OUR WEB PAGE AT: WWW.WEATHER.GOV/GRANDFORKS
THE FOLLOWING SEGMENTS CONTAIN RIVER INFORMATION FOR
THE SELECTED LOCATIONS INCLUDED IN THIS MESSAGE.
THIS FORECAST DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR ICE JAMS THAT CAN
QUICKLY RAISE LOCAL RIVER LEVELS WITH LITTLE OR NO NOTICE.
&&
MNC027-NDC017-300354-
/O.CON.KFGF.FL.W.0008.000000T0000Z-000000T0000Z/
/FGON8.3.SM.090321T0150Z.090328T0515Z.000000T0000Z.NR/
1054 AM CDT SAT MAR 28 2009
THE FLOOD WARNING CONTINUES FOR
THE RED RIVER AT FARGO.
* UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE...OR UNTIL THE WARNING IS CANCELLED.
* AT 1030 AM SATURDAY THE STAGE WAS 40.69 FEET.
* RECORD FLOODING IS OCCURRING AND RECORD FLOODING IS FORECAST.
* FLOOD STAGE IS 18.0 FEET.
* FORECAST...RIVER LEVELS ARE STILL EXPECTED TO REMAIN BELOW 41.0
FEET AND SLOWLY DECREASE OVER THE NEXT 3 TO 7 DAYS. WITH THE
RIVER EXCEEDING THE PREVIOUS RECORD LEVEL...THE RELATIVE
UNCERTAINTY IN FORECAST MODELS REMAIN AND THE RIVER WILL CONTINUE
TO BEHAVE IN WAYS NEVER BEFORE SEEN. A STORM SYSTEM WILL INFLUENCE
THE AREA MONDAY THROUGH TUESDAY. EASTERLY WINDS ASSOCIATED WITH
THIS STORM MAY CAUSE WAVES OF UP TO 2 FEET...ON TOP OF THE CREST
VALUE...TO IMPACT THE WESTERN DIKES ALONG THE RED RIVER.
THUS...THERE IS STILL A POSSIBILITY THAT THE RIVER COULD RISE AGAIN.
* IMPACT STATEMENT(S) - AT 40.2 FEET, FARGO...TOP ELEVATION OF THE
EMERGENCY LEVEES.
&&
DAILY 7 AM CDT/6 AM CST FORECAST STAGE IN FEET:
DATE SUN MON TUE WED THU FRI SAT
(MONTH/DAY) 03/29 03/30 03/31 04/01 04/02 04/03 04/04
RED RIVER
FARGO 40.6 40.4 40.2 39.8 39.4 39.1 38.7
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Posted By midatlanticweather to Forecast Discussion at 3/29/2009 10:24:00 AM
For us, as the storm wraps up and pushes a warm front north of the area, we will see some warmer temps today. that will be followed by a pretty wild afternoon as thunderstorms should break out and cause some higher winds. We "Cool" down tomorrow to the 50s again, and then see some warmer temps later this weke. A coastal low may form and cause another bout of rain wednesday into Thursday will some cooler air.
Blizzard video coverage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXzool-s0xU&feature=player_embedded
Poor people up in ND under so much water!
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/03/red_river_flooding.html
From NWS:
FLOOD STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE EASTERN NORTH DAKOTA/GRAND FORKS ND
1054 AM CDT SAT MAR 28 2009
...THE FLOOD WARNING CONTINUES FOR THE FOLLOWING RIVERS IN
MINNESOTA...NORTH DAKOTA...
THIS IS A FOLLOW-UP FLOOD STATEMENT TO THE CURRENT WARNINGS FOR THE
RED RIVER AT FARGO AFFECTING CLAY AND CASS COUNTIES
.CONDITIONS ON THE RED RIVER AT FARGO AND MOORHEAD REMAIN DANGEROUS.
THE RIVER IS CURRENTLY ABOVE RECORD LEVELS...AND AT THIS TIME THE
LEVEL IS EXPECTED TO VERY SLOWLY DECREASE OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS.
HOWEVER...REPORTS INDICATE THAT THERE IS STILL SIGNIFICANT OVERLAND
FLOODING SOUTH OF FARGO...AND THIS WATER IS EXPECTED TO STILL FLOW
INTO THE RED RIVER BETWEEN HICKSON AND FARGO. DUE TO RECENT COLD
WEATHER...OVERLAND FLOW INTO THE RED RIVER HAS SLOWED
DRAMATICALLY...BUT IT IS EXPECTED TO RESUME AS TEMPERATURES WARM
BACK ABOVE FREEZING LATER NEXT WEEK. AS A RESULT...RIVER LEVELS MAY
FLUCTUATE OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS.
RIVER LEVELS ARE STILL EXPECTED TO REMAIN BELOW 41.0 FEET AND SLOWLY
DECREASE OVER THE NEXT 3 TO 7 DAYS. WITH THE RIVER EXCEEDING THE
PREVIOUS RECORD LEVEL...THE RELATIVE UNCERTAINTY IN FORECAST MODELS
REMAIN AND THE RIVER WILL CONTINUE TO BEHAVE IN WAYS NEVER BEFORE
SEEN. A STORM SYSTEM WILL INFLUENCE THE AREA MONDAY THROUGH TUESDAY.
EASTERLY WINDS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS STORM MAY CAUSE WAVES OF UP TO
2 FEET...ON TOP OF THE CREST VALUE...TO IMPACT THE WESTERN DIKES
ALONG THE RED RIVER. THUS...THERE IS STILL A POSSIBILITY THAT THE
RIVER COULD RISE AGAIN.
AT 1030 AM CDT...THE RIVER STAGE AT FARGO IS 40.69 FEET. THIS LEVEL
EXCEEDS THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OBSERVED IN THE 1997 FLOOD...WHICH WAS
39.57 FEET. THIS LEVEL ALSO EXCEEDS THE RECORD HEIGHT OBSERVED IN
1897...WHICH WAS 40.10 FEET.
THIS FORECAST IS FOR A 7 DAY PERIOD...THE HIGHEST STAGE INDICATED
MAY NOT REFLECT THE CREST FOR THIS FLOOD EVENT. FORECASTS ARE
UPDATED DAILY AND STAGE VALUES WILL CHANGE AS NEW WEATHER AND
RIVER INFORMATION IS USED. THIS FORECAST INCLUDES ANY
PRECIPITATION THROUGH THE NEXT 24 HOURS.
PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...
SAFETY MESSAGES...TURN AROUND, DON`T DROWN...
- DON`T TRAVEL THROUGH FLOODED AREAS!
- CONTACT LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT TO REPORT FLOODING.
- PERSONS LIVING IN THE RED RIVER BASIN SHOULD MONITOR RIVER
LEVELS WHILE THE RIVER IS IN...OR NEAR...FLOOD.
FOR MORE INFORMATION...GO TO THE AHPS/RIVER SECTION
ON OUR WEB PAGE AT: WWW.WEATHER.GOV/GRANDFORKS
THE FOLLOWING SEGMENTS CONTAIN RIVER INFORMATION FOR
THE SELECTED LOCATIONS INCLUDED IN THIS MESSAGE.
THIS FORECAST DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR ICE JAMS THAT CAN
QUICKLY RAISE LOCAL RIVER LEVELS WITH LITTLE OR NO NOTICE.
&&
MNC027-NDC017-300354-
/O.CON.KFGF.FL.W.0008.000000T0000Z-000000T0000Z/
/FGON8.3.SM.090321T0150Z.090328T0515Z.000000T0000Z.NR/
1054 AM CDT SAT MAR 28 2009
THE FLOOD WARNING CONTINUES FOR
THE RED RIVER AT FARGO.
* UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE...OR UNTIL THE WARNING IS CANCELLED.
* AT 1030 AM SATURDAY THE STAGE WAS 40.69 FEET.
* RECORD FLOODING IS OCCURRING AND RECORD FLOODING IS FORECAST.
* FLOOD STAGE IS 18.0 FEET.
* FORECAST...RIVER LEVELS ARE STILL EXPECTED TO REMAIN BELOW 41.0
FEET AND SLOWLY DECREASE OVER THE NEXT 3 TO 7 DAYS. WITH THE
RIVER EXCEEDING THE PREVIOUS RECORD LEVEL...THE RELATIVE
UNCERTAINTY IN FORECAST MODELS REMAIN AND THE RIVER WILL CONTINUE
TO BEHAVE IN WAYS NEVER BEFORE SEEN. A STORM SYSTEM WILL INFLUENCE
THE AREA MONDAY THROUGH TUESDAY. EASTERLY WINDS ASSOCIATED WITH
THIS STORM MAY CAUSE WAVES OF UP TO 2 FEET...ON TOP OF THE CREST
VALUE...TO IMPACT THE WESTERN DIKES ALONG THE RED RIVER.
THUS...THERE IS STILL A POSSIBILITY THAT THE RIVER COULD RISE AGAIN.
* IMPACT STATEMENT(S) - AT 40.2 FEET, FARGO...TOP ELEVATION OF THE
EMERGENCY LEVEES.
&&
DAILY 7 AM CDT/6 AM CST FORECAST STAGE IN FEET:
DATE SUN MON TUE WED THU FRI SAT
(MONTH/DAY) 03/29 03/30 03/31 04/01 04/02 04/03 04/04
RED RIVER
FARGO 40.6 40.4 40.2 39.8 39.4 39.1 38.7
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Posted By midatlanticweather to Forecast Discussion at 3/29/2009 10:24:00 AM
Sunday, March 01, 2009
On target
Only thing I want to say is that amounts could be 1 to 3 inches more
west of i-95. Expect snow to be very heavy starting between 4 an 8 pm
central to northern va and 6 to 10 pm in Maryland. Some places in pink
will see 14"+ amounts!
west of i-95. Expect snow to be very heavy starting between 4 an 8 pm
central to northern va and 6 to 10 pm in Maryland. Some places in pink
will see 14"+ amounts!
There is likely to be a dry slotting lull in action setting up west of
i-95 which will keep that in lower amounts!
All for now!
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Saturday, February 28, 2009
I am very impressed with the moisture - I suspect areas along and just east of I-95 could be seeing their fist 12" snows on a long time. Baltimore and east over to Delaware - 12 -16"!This is a big storm. Some of the latest models are coming in and are showing the storm lasting into Monday!
Right now, I am expectin areas from Roanoke to Charlottesville to Leesburg to Eastern Frederick county and east to see storm totals 3- 6"
Areas 15 -20 miles west of 95 up to 95 and about 15 to to miles east - 4- 8"
Areas east of this up to 30 miles inland from the coast.. Jackpot! 6 -12" with some areas easily 12 - 14" (Isolated even higher!)
I suspect that the western edge of heavy snow COULD shift eastward and that would mean the whole area shifts east.. it is also very possible the jackpots could go westward!
This WILL be a high impact event!
Get ready!
MAJOR WINTER STORM ON THE WAY!!
most models are now coming together on a solution for a possible major snowstorm from nc up to maine. more to come, and this would be the second storm, there are 2, the first on sat- sunday morn, and the biggie sunday night to teusday.. stay tuned!!!
*** luke ***
Friday, February 27, 2009
Wednesday, February 11, 2009
Severe Storms on the march
A line of very strong showers with embedded thunderstorms will cross the region overnight! Expect very strong winds and brief heavy rains. We will then have a very gusty wind situation through tomorrow evening! Winds will gust over 60 miles per hour in the mountains and up to 60 in most areas!
All for now!
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All for now!
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Tuesday, February 03, 2009
Snow will wind down today. Cold for the next few days and then a warmer trend
The storm system behaved fairly close to model predictions that started about 24 hours ago. Before then, I pretty much was unsure of what would happen. In Northern Virginia we had a dusting. Areas up against the mountains had 1 - 2" and higher elevations actually had 3 to five inches of snow!
Today, snow showers will be present, especially this morning. Some instability could cause more this afternoon. As the storm gets wound up, winds will be gusty today making it cold! We will be about 10 degrees below normal.
Tomorrow and Thursday we will continue cold, with highs around 30 and in the 30s in the north, 30 to low 40s in the south.
A much milder trend begins to show up Friday into the weekend with temps reaching the 50s and even 60s in the south again by Monday.
Longer term, it does appear a shift back to cold may occur about the middle of February. Seasonal temperatures will occur next week.
All for now!
Today, snow showers will be present, especially this morning. Some instability could cause more this afternoon. As the storm gets wound up, winds will be gusty today making it cold! We will be about 10 degrees below normal.
Tomorrow and Thursday we will continue cold, with highs around 30 and in the 30s in the north, 30 to low 40s in the south.
A much milder trend begins to show up Friday into the weekend with temps reaching the 50s and even 60s in the south again by Monday.
Longer term, it does appear a shift back to cold may occur about the middle of February. Seasonal temperatures will occur next week.
All for now!
Monday, February 02, 2009
Now I am ready today - Not much snow!
Not saying i will not be watching radars today and tonight to see if the models missed the actual forecast, but it appears safe to say that after some rain today and starting tonight, a period of light snow looks likely tomorrow morning that will not accumulate to much, and only really accumulate on grassy and elevated surfaces!
Sorry for the wishy washy forecasts, but the models really did flip-flop on the solution several times!
All for now!
Sorry for the wishy washy forecasts, but the models really did flip-flop on the solution several times!
All for now!
Sunday, February 01, 2009
Verdict is still out! Some snow appears likely - accumulations????? I dunno!
I am growing more confident now that I am not going to really know much until we get the storm to form. There are chances that 2 low pressure systems could form and which one becomes the primary could mean the difference in snow and how much. Last night's late runs really put us in a lot of snow. We are back to a smaller amount on the latest runs.
Jimmy
Jimmy
Saturday, January 31, 2009
THINGS MAY HAVE MAJORLY CHANGED
Could have a HUGE snow on us Monday into Tuesday! We will wait and see, but WOW for the new models!
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